Derek: (smiling) I always get down with the sickness. Actually, there are some songs of theirs that I really like, so… no, I'm kidding. (laughter) They're terrible.

Derek: I love that; that movie's amazing. I really like that movie, I was super stoked. I was laughing so hard that I think I missed parts of it.

Derek: Yeah, totally. I actually liked it a little bit more. It answered some questions for me that I had about the first one, like I think there were some holes in the original that I was still scratching my head on, but that one didn't go near any of that, so I was pretty stoked on that.

Derek: I wouldn't be surprised if a shirt with a zombie showed up soon. We've got that Mummy one. We've been doing a lot of movie shirts lately, like horror movie shirts and I don't know how that happened, but I think we're maybe try and push away from those pretty soon, but we've been doing a series with the Creature from the Black Lagoon and the Mummy, so we'll probably continue on in that series because its kind of what we're into.

Derek: No, I'm surprised. Matt, call me if you're bummed. Give me a call, we can talk. (laughter)

Derek: Absolutely.

Derek: Unfortunately, it's not. It's not routed up here, but none of the dates are booked yet, so all I have is kind of a rough routing and that routing didn't include Portland or Seattle.

Derek: I know. They do that to us. Like that last tour with As I Lay Dying and Sworn Enemy didn't come up here either, so we were kinda bummed.

Derek: Yeah, gotta support our friends.

Derek: Well, they're not a band anymore; that's why I had the Hauler shirt on. It was 6 Minute Heartstop, then it went to Hauler. Aaron Edge is an awesome guy. He did almost all of our designs; we have like ten T-shirt designs in there and he did, like, probably eight of them. He still is a big part as far as our image is concerned; he does a lot of graphic work for us, he's always helped us out and even in times when we're super stressed and like "hey, we need something tomorrow," he always comes through for us. He actually roadied for us on our tour with The Black Dahlia Murder, so he's a close friend of ours who we've always kept in touch with and I've always been really good friends with him.

Derek: Uh, no. (laughter) He had nothing to do with that… actually, you know what, he did the back of that shirt. I take that back; he had a hand in that one as well. He did the back, which wasn't even that much designing, I just asked him to give us a graphic and we just threw it back on there because they didn't have anything on the back except a logo and I didn't want that. But the front was done by the people who did the shirt.

Derek: Yeah, it's been quite a progressive movement of member changes and right now we're at a point where everyone's determined in what we're doing and everyone's set up in their lifestyles that we can be out on tour and really push, which is always where we were trying to go earlier. It's just be a continuation of trying to find the right member and for a lot of people, its hard for them to come into a band and do what we're doing and really know how much work is involved in just being on the road all the time, constantly practicing, doing records, writing and stuff until they actually get in it. And when they get in it, they're just like "oh wow, this is insane." Monetarily, we really don't make that much at all. If you want to have a place to live, an apartment to come back to, we're not really set up for that, so we're all pretty much homeless, except for Kirby. So it's not as glamorous of a lifestyle as a lot of people think. It's just when they're "ooh, you're on tour all the time, you play with all these big bands," it's just like…

Derek: Yeah, totally. It's rough. So it's a lot harder than people realize. We've had past members go "I can't do this." But we've had other members quit for other various reasons.

Derek: Yeah, that was unfortunate. That fire really did him in.

Derek: (smiling) Yes, indeed. "Trick Or Treat," that's a fine, fine film. Totally.

Derek: I'm going to leave that up to the reader and tell them to go hunt around. 'Cause the answer is definitely out there everywhere.

Derek: Yes, it's Sanskrit.

Derek: You know, it's kind of funny, like it's all coming together. Any kind of heavy or aggressive kind of music, not even necessarily metal or hardcore, although those are two of the bigger ones, is all kind of molding together. I think it's kind of cool; it brings in a lot of different influences and diversifies the scene as a whole. I mean, it does make the scene a lot bigger and it does take away a bit of the community feel, but I think if people's hearts are in the right place that it will continue to grow and gain momentum and still retain it's community base.

Derek: Yes it does, yes it does and the person who wrote most of that song is no longer in the band, but not because of anything like that. It was more of a coincidence than it was straight rip-off, although I will admit that Soilwork was in kind of heavy rotation. I mean, there's a lot of Swedish metal influence on that record, so that's no surprise. We kind of realized that after that song was done that they were very, very similar. It happens. It happens a lot to bands. We love Soilwork; we think they're great musicians. Not that we would rip them off purposely, but when you're listening to something a lot and when you're influenced by it a lot, I think that happens a lot. I'm sure the next record we write will have something that sounds similar to some other album somewhere else. There's just so much out there that it's hard not to repeat it down the line.