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When
it comes to music, especially Heavy Metal music, having
a nice eye-catching album cover is as damn near as important
as the music contained within the actual album in my opinion.
If done properly, album cover artwork can create an atmosphere
and set a mood for the music before the music fan ever
hits "Play" for the first time. Not only that, I and many
other Metalheads will pick an album up by a band they
may never have heard before simply if the album cover
looks interesting to us. One of the most sought after,
most prolific and one of the most talented artists in
the underground Metal scene today is Kris Verwimp. If
you own a decent collection of Black, Folk, Viking or
Pagan Metal CD's, chances are you own one that Kris has
painted the cover for. Join us as I take a few moments
to talk with Kris to try and find out what makes his "painted
world" such a joy for others to look at.
Britton:
Hails, Kris! Thank you much for taking time out of your
busy schedule to do this interview. I can see with what
you've been doing lately that you're a busy man! Why don't
you start off by telling the readers a bit about yourself.
Who you are, where you live, what it is exactly you do
etc.
Kris: Well, I was born in Belgium on 17-07-1970
and I still live there in a small village called Zammel.
I've been drawing ever since childhood but I never actually
went to an art-school. Back in 1984 I created my own comic
book character "Odoric" and I did a number of comic books
and short stories about him over the years. The first
actual record cover that I did was for the release on
Vinyl of Ancient Rites' "The Diabolic Serenades" by Midian
Creations. In 1994 I was asked by Osmose Productions from
France to create a painting for Marduk. By doing so, my
work was released into the world and I've been drawing
CD covers ever since!
Britton: What is it that inspired you to first be an
artist? Do you have other artists that you looked up to
when you first got into painting, or did the inspiration
come from within yourself?
Kris: While growing up, I loved to indulge
myself in my fathers comic-books. These comic books were
all about Sword & Sorcery, Science Fiction and fantasy
and illustrated by such legends as Hal Foster, Berni Wrightson,
Frank Frazetta, Rosinski, Don Lawrence, etc., to name
but a few! I was also very inspired by the movie "Conan
The Barbarian". After I had watched that film at the movie-theatre,
I started dreaming about creating such a world myself.
So in order to convert my dreams into reality, I started
drawing. I inherited my drawing-skills from my mother
I believe… she did a lot of drawings when I was little.
I just picked up her drawing tools and started at it myself.
The ancient arts of the Celts and Vikings have also been
a big influence on me, especially the knotwork-art. I'm
also very inspired by music of course! I'm a Metal fan
myself and I own a very large collection. I must add that
I never really consciously chose to become an artist.
It just happened because I like to draw and paint so much
and I don't mind spending all my free time on it.
Britton: When you get chosen by a band to do an album
cover, how do you come up with the visual theme of what
you want to do? Does the band tell you what the concept
of the album is about, do they send a copy of the lyrics
or whatever and you base your ideas of the lyrics, or what?
Your artwork seems to usually represent what the lyrical
content of the album is.
Kris: Yes, you're right about that! I always
ask the band that I'm working for to give me as much information
as possible. That includes lyrics, concept ideas, and
most importantly the music itself! The music is my main
source of inspiration. I just need to listen to it and
when I close my eyes I start seeing visions of what the
cover art could look like. Of course I keep in mind what
the concept and lyrics are all about when I start doing
some sketches. As soon as I have a good sketch of the
composition, I'll send a scan to the band to see if they
like it or not. I only start working on the final painting
when the sketch is approved. Each band is different and
there are some bands that really don't have any clue as
to what their cover art should look like. In that case
I can do whatever I want. But there are also bands that
have very strong ideas about the visual representation
of their music. Bands like Absu have the whole composition
worked out already before they even contact me to paint
it!
Britton: I love Celtic knots, and your artwork seems
to be full of them. Do you make a conscious effort to include
knotwork somewhere in all of your works?
Kris: Well, Celtic knotwork has intrigued me
ever since I first encountered it! There was a time when
you almost couldn't find any knotwork designs anywhere.
I started collecting as many books about it as I could
find. At first it was very hard to imitate the knotwork
patterns. Creating an original pattern or decorating an
alternative shape with knotwork was really very difficult
to do. I have lots and lots of respect for the ancient
artists and craftsmen who developed this form of art.
The strange thing is that when you practice drawing knotwork
for many many years you start to develop a kind of intuition
for it. Suddenly the lines start flowing instinctively
in the right directions... it's kind of a mystery to me
really. But I'm sure that I haven't even scratched the
surface of this mystery. I don't really use knotwork patterns
consciously in each of my paintings, but it just creeps
in because I love it so much I guess... There aren't many
artists who use knotwork in the right way. It just takes
lots and lots of time and work. I can see in my own artworks
when I didn't have enough time to do it right... it's
a shame and it haunts me, but there's such a thing as
deadlines in this day and age.
Britton: What is your thought on computer generated album
cover art? Some of that is done well, but I think the computer
stuff lacks the originality and warmth of a good hand painted
cover.
Kris: There are some pretty good programs around
these days that do a great job in imitating handpainted
art. And I do respect a good cover no matter how it was
created... But what bothers me is when a cover artwork
is created by using different elements from other artworks
or photographs. It's always easy to tell when a cover
is just stitched together. Also, regarding to the computer
designs that are being used a lot these days I think that
a traditionally created artwork has a more timeless quality
to it. Computer generated art tends to look outdated fairly
quickly. It's always amusing when people write me to ask
what program I use to paint my artworks. These days it
seems that less and less artists still use pencils, brushes
and paint...
Britton: What album covers are you working on now? I
see you did the most recent Metal Message (Vol. III) cover.
Anything else you're working on that you can tell us about?
Kris: As always I'm working on a bit too many
projects actually. I recently finished new covers for
Ceremonial Castings, Celebrant and Crom but my latest
work was the new Suidakra artwork for their upcoming "Caledonia"
album. Next artworks that I need to finish are the new
Waylander, Dark Forest and Charnel Winds artworks to name
a few. There's also a new band with proscriptor from Absu
on drums that I'm doing the artwork for. And then there
are a few other projects in development, but it's too
early to say anything about that yet.
Britton: You've done work for literally thirty-five to
forty Metal bands, which is quite impressive. Can you give
a list of what bands you've did artwork for?
Kris: Well, I honestly didn't keep count !
This is perhaps the most difficult question, haha ! But
I'll give it a try ( in no particular order ) :
Ancient Rites, Samhain, Morbid, Entropy, Marduk, Absu,
Sear Bliss, Enthroned, Avatar, Liar, Caducity, Infernal
Beauty, The Darkening, Thyrfing, Bewitched, Nocturnal
Breed, Twin Obscenity, Old Man's Child, Arch Enemy, Night
Conquers Day, Deviser, Amsvartner, Skullview, Evoke, Nagelfar,
Suidakra, Nebular Moon, Hellstorm, Frostmoon, Signs Of
Darkness, Necrodochion, Magia Posthuma, Insanity Reigns
Supreme, Prejudice, Infernal Legion, Ketter, Immortal,
Cirith Gorgor, Celebrant, Cantar, Sathanas, Moonblood,
Nebular Mystic, Lordes Werre, Callenish Circle, Shadowbreed,
Incinerator, Morningstar, Enslaved, Angel Corpse, Oblivion,
Aeon, Trollskogen, Vital Remains, Mundanus Imperium, Tearstained,
In De Schaduw, The Reckoning, The Legion, Infernal Vengeance,
Ragnarok, Hordak, Ceremonial Castings, Manegarm, Hypnosia,
After All, Setherial, Lord Belial, Panzer, Theudho, Metalhead,
Sallah, Hatred Unleashed, Paths Of Possession, Melechesh,
Centinex, Flauros, Double Diamond, Crimson Scythe, Serpent
Lord, Debauchery, Sympathy, Tiwaz, Torka, Suhrim, The
Frost, Kyla, Ritual Steel, Demonizer, Nocturnal, Asatru,
Lemuria, Dagorlad, Viperine, Embolus, Sabbat, Crimson
Falls, Slechtvalk, Mandatory, Avidost, Crom, Mentation,
Ulterior Decimation, Crawlspace, Morturom, Cryme, Old
Path, Mystica, Arwen, Lord, Martyr, Nevermore, Hell Icon,
Dark Fortress, Thornspawn, The Black Order, Allied Forces,
Demon Child, Axamenta, Keltgar, Angus, Ufych Sormeer,
Daemusinem, Patriarch, Vindsval, Xeah, Occult, Horna,
...
And a bunch of compilation stuff and all... I hope I didn't
leave anyone out !
Britton: All of the covers you've done look good, but
the most amazing one was the artwork you did for Manegarm's
"Vreden's Tid". The color scheme and amount of detail on
that was amazing. How did you come up with the concept for
this art, and what inspired it all?
Kris: The concept for that cover was taken
directly from the lyrics of the song "Kolöga Trolltand".
In short it's about a Troll living in the woods nearby
a village. The churchbell constantly wakes him up from
his sleep and he gets so irritated by this that he smashes
the church in rage. In the end he takes the churchbell
home and uses it to drink his ale from. I added the wolves
and the stone circle because I needed to expand the drawing
over two pages. It was not an easy concept! I did many
sketches and studies. My main problem was the Troll because
I don't like to draw typical fantasy figures that much.
So I did the Troll in my own way and that made the scene
look a bit more realistic I guess. Also, this was my first
artwork after a two month break that I needed to take
because of my exhibition in Antwerp and the creation of
my artbook. So I was very eager to start painting again
and I think it shows! I didn't realize that it was that
good though... it was only after I read all the positive
reviews that I started feeling more comfortable about
it. I'm never satisfied with my own work.
Britton: I've heard you design band logos too?
Kris: Yes, but I try to avoid doing too many
logos. I always spend way too much time on the design
of a logo. Sometimes it takes me even longer than a CD
cover painting. It gets increasingly difficult to come
up with something that hasn't been done before. The real
master of logos is another Belgian artist: Christophe
Spazjdel.
Britton: Is there any "competition" among you Metal artists
out there? Like, do you and Kristian Wahlin and others bid
for a lot of the same jobs?
Kris: Certainly not that I'm aware of! If a
band wants me to do their cover art, they just write me
and ask me if I want to do it. I never ask them if they've
contacted another artist to compare prices or anything.
I also never write to bands myself to ask if they need
a cover design. I only work on request.
Britton: Who would be victorious in a fair fist fight
between Kris Verwimp, Kristian Wahlin, or Petagno? Petagno
is pretty big, I've heard. *Hahaha*
Kris: I guess you've been watching too much
Monty Python lately!? (Edit: There is no such thing as
watching too much Monty Python!) I do own some swords
and I'm also an archer in my free time. But I honestly
wouldn't know who would be the last man standing, haha!
I've never met Kristian Wahlin or Petagno in person. I've
also never been in contact with any of them. I've only
been in contact with JP Fournier, Juha Vuorma and Dan
Seagrave ( who even shares my day of birth! ). I respect
each and everyone of my fellow artists... They are about
the only people that I can talk to about art skills and
all. So I think instead of fighting there would be a lot
of talking going on... which would be boring to you guys.
(Edit again: It wouldn't be boring to me! I love all apsects
of artwork, hence my interview with you, Kris!)
Britton: What other things have you did paintings for
that are not Metal related?
Kris: There's my comic book of course and then
there are a few book covers and a DVD cover that I did.
But that's about it I guess. Ever since I started doing
covers for Metal bands, I received so many requests that
I haven't had the time to work on anything else. Occasionally
I did a portrait of a friend or a family member. But I
do that only for people that I know really well. I also
did a few tattoo designs for some friends. But I don't
have the time to start doing that for other people as
well.
Britton: Does your artwork sustain you? Is this what
you do full time, or do you have another job as well?
Kris: I guess you won't expect this, but I
actually have a fulltime daily job to earn my living.
It has nothing to do with art or Metal or anything. I
am only able to work on my paintings in the evenings or
in the weekends. So it's hard to get all the work done
sometimes... Time is my biggest enemy. Anyone who knows
me well, will confirm that I'm never motivated by money.
My first and only motivation is always the music, the
band and creating the best possible artwork for both.
The payment is always the last thing on my mind. So it
wouldn't be a good idea for me to quit my job and start
living off my artwork earnings. I would never be able
to survive. I do a lot of artworks for underground bands
who don't have much money, so in order to earn enough
I guess I would have to start looking for bigger clients.
The money that I get from my paintings is almost all spent
on art materials and some fun stuff such as CD's, books,
DVD's and occasionally a nice sword or something like
that.
Britton: How do you go about charging (pricing) for your
artwork?
Kris: Like I said before, the price is always
the last thing on my mind. I don't have fixed prices.
It all depends on the difficulty of the concept, the amount
of work, the painting materials needed, etc... Each case
is different. I tend to ask less when a band is unsigned.
The bigger the record company, the higher my prices. Usually
they work with budgets anyway and everything is less personal.
Britton: Will you do work for any band that pays you,
or do you have to like the band's music to do artwork for
them?
Kris: It helps a lot when I really like the
music. Sometimes it's also okay if I just like the concept
or the lyrics. But if there's really nothing that inspires
me, I guess I'll say no even if they would pay me. It
happened a few times before...
Britton: The few times we have talked, you have said
that you like Folk Metal a lot. What Folk Metal bands do
you consider your favorite? Is the reason you do so many
Folk/Viking/Pagan Metal album covers because you're a fan
of the genre?
Kris: Yes you're right ! I'm a big fan of that
genre. I've always been a fan of it, even before it existed!
In the 80's I was always looking for an epic or heroic
feeling in Metal, but there weren't any bands that came
even close to what I was looking for. Finally with Bathory's
"Hammerheart" album things started to go in the right
direction. And then there was Skyclad, which I thought
was great especially in the early days. But it still took
many years for the Folk/Pagan/Viking scene to emerge that
we have today. These days I can't even keep up with the
flow of new bands. What I'm looking for in my favorite
bands are mainly two things: the music has to be epic
and/or heroic. It's nearly impossible to name all the
bands that I like, but these days I'm listening a lot
to ( just to name a few ) Thiasos Dionysos, the Russian
Arkona, Kromlek, Metsatöll, Hel, Nomans Land, Wyrd, Belenos,
Nebelhorn, Klabautamann, Bergthron, etc. ... I really
buy way too many CD's... Actually I don't think I've done
that many covers for these kind of bands. I was very excited
about doing the new Suidakra album artwork. I can't stop
listening to the new songs... they are really very heroic
once again. Another band that I was happy to do the cover
for again was Hordak from Spain. Really an amazing band
in my opinion... they also have this heroic and epic quality
in their music. And then there's Manegarm of course, which
is also quite an extraordinary band to work for. I love
this genre so much actually that I sometimes consider
to work only for these kind of bands in the future.
Britton: I was quite surprised to see you on the bonus
features on Sear Bliss' DVD "A Decade Of Perdition". You
seemed to be a staple artist for Sear Bliss and did most
of their album covers, except their last album. Would you
like to do their covers again in the future?
Kris: Well, I was surprised myself that Andras
wanted to interview me on video when I visited them on
tour ! I never expected them to actually use the footage.
They even shot more, but there was a lot of noise at that
place and it was very dark. I was convinced that it was
all bad... Anyways, the new album is the best one yet
I think, even if I didn't do the cover. I like the artwork
very much actually. I can understand why they used someone
from their own country this time. Also I think that the
story behind my artworks had played out a bit and it's
only natural that a band needs some change every now and
then. But I would be very happy to do something for them
again if they would ask me. I'm still in good contact
with the band, so you never know. I actually did a sketch
for the DVD cover art as well, but it wasn't meant to
be I guess...
Britton: I've always said a good album cover is quite
an incentive for someone to buy an album, especially when
it comes to lesser known bands. Do you agree? A lot of times
I've seen people (myself included) say "Wow, look at that
fucking cover! That's cool, I'm buying this!."
Kris: Agreed! I think the visual aspect can
be very important for an album. The artwork is the first
thing you see and in many cases it can be the main reason
for picking up a CD. A good cover should represent the
music in a visual way and it should create the right atmosphere
for listening to it. Usually when it seems that a lot
of time and work has been spent on the artwork, the music
tends to be at the same level. So instinctively the choice
goes out to the CD with the most appealing cover. I think
these days good art is more important than ever for an
unknown band. People can't buy everything, so when they
need to make a choice they'll obviously pick the CD with
the nicest cover.
Britton: Tell us all about your artbook, The Seventh
Serpent. I've looked for this everywhere in the U.S., and
have not been able to find it anywhere!
Kris: That's no mystery actually because you
can only buy it from myself. There's no distribution for
it. The reason for that is mainly because the manufacturing
and the postage costs are so high. I released this book
for the occasion of my exhibition in Antwerp last year.
It was actually an idea of a good friend of mine and we
both shared in the costs. Of course, I needed to create
the book in the first place and that was a hell of a job.
I did all the layouts and everything myself. In the end
I found myself working for four days without any rest
or sleep to get it finished in time for the opening of
my exhibition... needless to say that I was a wreck after
that experience. I don't think I could do that again.
Of course I did it to myself because I wanted to create
a really special book and that meant lots of work. What's
really great about it is that I could finally see my artworks
in print without any of the logo's or alterations done
by record companies and such. I also contacted some bands
to write some lines about my artworks... I think it worked
out very well and I'm proud that I managed to release
this. It's very limited though, and there won't be a second
printing.
Britton: What is it you like to do on your off-time?
I ask this, because a lot of people that get asked this
question say "I paint and draw when I'm not working". But
this is what you do for a living, so what do you do when
you're away from your pencils and paints?
Kris: Well, as I said before I have a regular
job so I'm forced to "paint and draw when I'm not working".
The other stuff that I fill my time with is connected
to that in a way. I collect comics and fantasy artbooks.
I have a very large Conan collection and I own lots and
lots of CD's and DVD's. I'm also a real movie buff. My
main interests are historic, SF or fantasy movies. On
the weekends I like to visit CD and book fairs or various
conventions. I also like visiting ancient ruins, castles
or abbeys. I don't travel much though... the last time
I traveled was 6 years ago ( my trip to Ireland where
I visited Tara and other incredible places ).
Britton: What is it that you want people to see or take
away with them when they look at your artwork? What kind
of response do you hope they have?
Kris: In the first place I hope they will find
something interesting in it. I always try to include some
elements that are open to interpretation. I don't like
it when an idea is too defined. Suggestion is better and
leaves more to the imagination of the viewer. If you look
carefully at my artworks, you'll often find more than
one story in them. There's always the obvious scene that's
playing out before your eyes, but there's also some symbolism
in it on a different level. I always try to add a some
mysterious elements to stimulate the imagination. I tend
to use a lot of geometrical shapes in my compositions
to create even more mystery. That's not always easy of
course. Sometimes I need to stick to the concept of the
band that I'm doing the artwork for. In the end I just
hope the artwork gets noticed and that people are intrigued
by it.
Britton: Well Kris, this concludes our interview. Once
again, I thank you on behalf of all of us here at Metal
Coven. I look forward to seeing your work on many album
covers in the future! I leave the last word to you to add
anything you wish.
Kris: Thank you Britton and all Metal Coven
readers for being interested in my work and for taking
the time to look more closely at CD-cover artworks in
general! I hope you enjoyed reading this interview and
I hope I'll be able to keep on creating Metal art for
as long as I can (...or until you all tell me to quit,
haha!).
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