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WALKYIER
Britton Dicks with:
Martin Walkyier
Via Email Interview
January 10, 2006

There's
not many musicians in the Metal World that people can
say truly changed the sound of the genre in any big or
significant way over these last three decades. Very few
musicians in the admittedly at times overcrowded and unimaginative
world we like to call "Underground Metal" break away from
the pack, create their own path and do their own amazing
thing to offer us listeners something new and unique,
it's just that since there is no mainstream exposure for
this music in most of the world, their brilliance and
creativity usually goes largely unnoticed by the masses.
The biggest example of such a musician is Martin Walkyier,
a man that throughout his musical career not only changed
Metal, he was actually the originator of a whole new Metal
sub-genre or two! In the 1980's he fronted the legendary
Sabbat, a band that is widely considered to be the first
true Pagan Metal band to ever exist. After leaving Sabbat
he went on to form an even more legendary act called Skyclad,
which was the first band to infuse traditional Folk melodies
and instruments with extreme Metal. Yes folks, they were
the first Folk Metal band out there. Mr. Walkyier has
had a rather eventful last few years when it comes to
music, so why don't you join me for a bit as I talk with
him about his past music endeavors, what he's up to now,
what the hell really is going on with The Clan Destined,
and what we can all expect from him in the future.
Britton: Welcome Martin! I want to extend my gratitude
to you for taking the time to do this interview with me!
For those few who are reading this who may not know who
you are or what you are about, why don't you give a few
words describing yourself.
Martin:
Hello Britton! It's a pleasure to asked for an interview
on your site. I hope that yourself and your readers are
having a happy and prosperous 2006 so far. I guess I would
best describe myself as one of the numerous people who've
realised that there's something deeply wrong with the
way in which our planet is being run. The politicians
and leaders are assholes; concerned only with their own
financial well-being, and who show little respect for
the environment or other global issues which currently
threaten us all. I have spent the last 20 years of my
life trying to tell people my thoughts and opinions on
this matter through my songs, poetry and other writings.
Britton:
Your new musical project The Clan Destined hit a few snags
recently. Care to tell the readers who may not already know
about that what happened?
Martin:
'A few snags' would be a major understatement! The full
story of what exactly has happened here is a tale which
makes Spinal Tap seem like a stroll through the park by
comparison. I have neither the time or the desire to go
into the gruesome details, but suffice it to say that
the events of the last 12 months have currently put me
off making music ever again. To cut a long story short,
Iscariah moved from Norway to Nottingham (U.K.) in January
2004. From the moment he arrived he was welcomed into
my family and circle of friends, and we began working
in earnest on The Clan Destined's "In The Big Ending..."
demo recordings. The songwriting and recording process
progressed slowly but surely over the following months,
and this whole project began to become something far bigger
and better than we'd ever imagined it could be. All was
going extremely well, until on the 16th December 2004
Iscariah came over to my house and informed me that he
was no longer happy with the way our project was going
and didn't want to be part of The Clan Destined anymore.
I asked him what was wrong and tried my utmost to resolve
the problem, but it sadly appeared that his mind was made-up
on this matter. The nearest I got to an explanation was
that he "had a feeling in his heart that he couldn't put
into words". Despite having a written agreement with Iscariah
that we'd work together in order to see the TCD demo completed,
it soon became blatantly clear from his emails that I
was alone 'left holding the baby' as the saying goes.
I realised that the only way I would get these songs completed
for the fans to hear was by doing it myself. It was around
this time that several pathetic individuals, (who were
keen to see this project fail for reasons I cannot begin
to imagine), then began saying slanderous and defamatory
things about me on various internet chat-rooms and message
boards. All this at a time when my old father was very
ill in hospital, it is a period in my life that I dearly
wish to forget and put behind me as I'm sure you can understand.
Britton:
Despite the hiccup in the The Clan Destined lineup, I hear
you managed to finish the demo on your own anyway. How did
you go about doing this?
Martin:
The Clan Destined demo recordings were saved from the
Heavy Metal scrapheap by the kind intervention of Andy
Sneap and James Murphy. They witnessed the vast amount
of childish bullshit I was going through at this time,
and also loved the material that I had written together
with Iscariah. It is solely due to Andy and James' friendship
and support that I got through this dilemma and managed
to get these recordings completed, and I shall never forget
the help they gave me! There were many people aside from
myself and Iscariah who had worked extremely hard to make
this project happen. If I had just given-up without a
fight I would honestly have felt as if I'd let them all
down very badly indeed.
Britton:
Can you clue us in to what the demo sounds like? Ever since
I heard you announce the band, very little was released
about the band's sound aside from the fact that it would
be nothing like we have heard before
Martin:
There is a download of a TCD track called "T.C. Lethbridge"
available on the downloads page of www.theclandestined.com
- I don't know if it's the best example to use for what
the new material sounds like, as it's just a cover-version
of a song originally written by Julian Cope for a band
called The Sons of T.C. Lethbridge. As to whether this
TCD music sounds like nothing you've heard before, I'll
have to let the fans decide that one. What I do know is
that I've worked with a lot of highly talented people
on this, and the line-up on these recordings is one which
will sadly never be heard again.
Britton:
When the demo is finally released, will it be properly distributed,
or will you distribute it yourself?
Martin:
I plan to release these recordings in a strictly limited-edition
format via The Clan Destined website to begin with. If
an honest and reliable distribution company present themselves
then it may be released in the future to a wider audience
with proper distribution. My main concern at present is
to get the songs out there, so the fans can finally hear
what we've done and I can have some kind of 'closure'
on what has proven to be a very difficult couple of years.
Britton:
When I first heard about The Clan Destined, the news was
that Andrea Haugen of Hagalaz' Runedance/Nebelhexe was on
board to be in the band, but it became apparent after a
while she wasn't. How come she never appeared officially
in the band? I thought you and her working together would
only create great things! Would you like to work with her
in some capacity in the future?
Martin:
When The Clan Destined project was in its early stages
we talked with a lot of people about the possibility of
them becoming involved. I am a big fan of Andrea's work
and like her as a person, so it's a real shame that nothing
came together with her in the end. I am always on the
lookout for creative and like minded individuals to work
with, but have no plans to do any music for the foreseeable
future (if ever). The lady who ended up doing the female
vocals on these tracks is called Grim Rita from www.faceparty.com
The story of how we both met is one of the strangest 'coincidences'
imaginable, and sadly another tale that I don't have the
time to tell at present.
Britton:
A while ago Keith Fay of Cruachan (who is a huge fan of
yours) announced you would be doing a guest vocal spot on
their upcoming new album. How did this come about and when
do you plan on going to work with the band and record your
vocal tracks?
Martin:
Cruachan contacted me a while ago about the possibility
of me doing some backing vocals. I think they're a great
bunch of people, and naturally agreed. I haven't yet heard
the song they want me to sing, but providing my vocals
will work on the track I should be going to Ireland to
work with them sometime in February this year.
Britton:
Have you ever thought about writing lyrics for other bands
to use?
Martin:
I'd love to do some writing for other bands. I am starting
to feel very inspired lately, and am always keen to find
as many outlets for my writing as possible.
Britton:
When I emailed you asking for an interview, you said you
were now a writer. Is this what you are doing now full time,
or just for the time being? What is it that you are writing?
Full length novels, poems or short stories? I've read some
of your short stories over the years and they were really
good.
Martin:
I'm currently working on an illustrated book together
with pagan artist and sculptor Neil Sims, (he did the
sculpture of The Horned God that you can see in my photograph).
It will probably be a collection of 3 short stories, and
at present it's all coming together rather nicely. It
will be released initially via The Clan Destined website
only, then I'll look for a publishing deal if there proves
to be a market for the rantings of an insane pagan Englishman.
Britton:
I see your personal website http://www.martinwalkyier.com
is down right now. Do you plan on getting that up and running
again to give updates on your writing, or do you plan on
doing that through The Clan Destined site?
Martin:
When we began work on The Clan Destined I decided to give-up
my old site, as it was proving to be a bit of a drain
on my time and energy. I am still carrying-on with The
Clan Destined vision, and have had numerous cool people
come forward over the last year who want to become involved.
I think it's more appropriate to continue this work via
www.theclandestined.com
as there are many different people contributing aside
from myself.
Britton:
Okay, now let's talk a bit about your musical past. Both
Sabbat and Skyclad were monumental and important bands in
the Metal world. Both bands were the first to do what they
did and as a result they were very influential to a myriad
of bands over the last nearly fifteen years. How do you
feel about all these new Pagan and Folk Metal bands paying
homage to Sabbat and Skyclad and calling you their biggest
influence? There's now literally hundreds of Folk Metal
bands out there that drew inspiration from Skyclad's music.
Bands from many different countries are now incorporating
their own native traditional Folk music into Metal with
amazing results. Do you look at this a good thing or a complete
rip-off of what Skyclad did years ago?
Martin:
I think it's a very positive thing that younger bands
are starting to take an interest in their musical heritage.
I'm therefore proud to think that Skyclad had a part to
play in this process. It was always my heartfelt dream
to see the energy of Metal music mixed with elements from
more traditional styles; and if other, young bands can
take this to a new dimension beyond what Skyclad achieved
then I wish them all the best of luck. Mission accomplished!
Britton:
Speaking of Sabbat, for a while you resurrected the band
as Return To The Sabbat. Your recent remarks hinted at the
fact that you may not do music ever again. If this is so,
can we assume that this band is done with?
Martin:
Return To The Sabbat was a 'tribute' band I formed following
my departure from Skyclad. People were constantly asking
me if I'd ever play the old Sabbat material again, and
I though that doing so would be cool as a last chance
for the fans to hear these songs again live. Everyone
who saw Return To The Sabbat thoroughly enjoyed themselves
I reckon, and we tried our very best to play this classic
music in a respectful and honest manner. Whilst I've no
plans to play any Sabbat tracks again, we do have a live
recording from a great live show at The Garage in London
which I may release at some future date.
Britton:
Years ago I bought a live Sabbat VHS tape called "The End
Of The Beginning". With Noise Records recently reissuing
some of the Sabbat and Skyclad albums, is there any chance
of this live video being re-released on DVD format? There
seems to be a lot of call for it.
Martin:
Unfortunately I have no say whatsoever about what happens
with these old recordings. They belonged to Noise Records,
who subsequently sold them all the The Sanctuary Group.
I have numerous requests also for the Sabbat "Dreamweaver"
album, plus many of the earlier Skyclad recordings which
are no longer on general release. It is entirely up to
Sanctuary whether this material is re-released or not,
and so I guess that they're the people that you and your
readers should be contacting. Myself and Andy Sneap have
hassled them several times over the years, but with little
success I'm sorry to say.
Britton:
Also, I have to ask for the people that want me to ask...
Is there any chance at all that you may return to Skyclad?
This would be a perfect time if there was one! The band
is still going on its own, but in my personal opinion (as
well as many others) the band just seems to be missing a
few key ingredients with you gone. Kevin Ridley is a great
guitarist, even a decent vocalist, but his vocal and lyrical
approach is lacking. Especially on "No Daylights Nor Heeltaps"!
Oh, that was a horrid album! "A Semblance Of Normality"
was a lot better, but still sounded off a bit without your
presence. Seems every band you leave tries to go on with
not so great results! Hahahaha
Martin:
As I'm sure you can imagine, leaving a band which you
formed and worked together with for over 10 years is not
a decision to be taken lightly. There were numerous reasons
behind my departure from Skyclad, and I had been deeply
unhappy with the way things were going for several years
prior to my quitting the band. When we started we were
the only band playing Folk Metal, now as you stated earlier
there are literally hundreds. I see little point in stepping
backwards, and would prefer to concentrate my talents
on future projects where they may have the most innovative
impact. I think that Kevin Ridley is a great singer and
lyricist by the way, his former band Forgodsake were amongst
my favourite British bands. Whether he's the correct singer
for Skyclad is not my place to say, that's purely for
the fans to decide. I wish them the very best of luck
for the future.
Britton:
Okay now for a few more personal questions. I'd like to
know where you draw inspiration from when you write. Over
the years I've seen many polls that asked "Who is the best
lyricist in Metal?", and you always seem to top those lists,
and rightfully so. Each and every lyric I've seen come from
you have been full of great puns, great word play, and they
all seem to come from very personal experiences or beliefs
you have or have had.
Martin:
All my lyrics come either from personal experience or
cover issues that are very close to my heart. I have always
endeavoured to write with honesty and passion, as I don't
see how it can truly be done any other way. It has taken
me 5 years since leaving Skyclad to complete The Clan
Destined recordings; and though I'm deeply proud of what
we've achieved, I don't really think that this was a very
productive use of my time. That's why I've turned to writing
as my new creative outlet. There's nobody to depend upon
apart from myself, and I will be infinitely less likely
to get either ripped-off or let down in the future.
Britton:
One of the things aside from the music that drew me to your
music were your thoughts on Mother Nature and the environment.
You've touched on almost every aspect of this from Global
Warming to deforestation, and you've done so with extremely
passionate lyrics that I feel are almost written for me
since I agree with pretty much everything you say in those
lyrics. Care to give us a few words on what you think about
Nature, and what we as humans are doing to it on a daily
basis? As I sit here now in Michigan in the Northern part
of the U.S.A., it's the end of December and just like the
last ten years it's abnormally warm and our snow is melting
when it should be well below freezing. People comment on
how nice it is to be this warm, while I'm just alarmed about
it all. It's like people are clueless about it.
Martin:
Our planet is dying, make no mistake about it! One look
at the weather we're having is enough to set my alarm
bells ringing, yet humanity hides from the truth like
an ostrich with its head buried firmly in the sand. If
all the countries of the world pulled together to combat
Global Warming then something could possibly still be
done to prevent drastic environmental melt-down, but I
don't see that happening in the current political climate
to be honest. Our 'leaders' are too busy looking for a
terrorist in every closet, unwilling to even contemplate
the real terror which awaits us all. When the last polar
ice caps have melted and what was once lush rain forest
lies deep below the poisoned ocean's surface; I can clearly
see in my minds eye George W. Bush and Osama Bin Laden
standing on top of what's left of Mount Everest, still
argueing like madmen until their dying breath about whether
it's better to worship God or Allah. I'm sorry to say
that these dumb-ass fuck-wits will undoubtedly prove to
be the death of us all!
Britton:
About five or so years ago when I was still a regular on
the Skyclad message boards, you asked us to write into some
British government officials to support a journalist friend
of yours that was being threatened with deportation for
some reason. I wrote in my support because her plight seemed
like a just cause. Since then, I've always wondered what
happened to her. Did she get to stay?
Martin:
Since leaving Skyclad I've sadly no idea what has happened
with this. I hope that she's OK, but knowing how tight
the British government are on immigration at the moment
she was probably deported back a long time ago.
Britton:
I know you have one son, right? How old is he now, and how's
he doing? He's got to be getting a bit older now, eh? Have
you had any more children?
Martin:
My son Rowan will be 16 this year. He's fine, thanks for
asking...getting taller by the day, unlike his old dad.
lol. He's playing guitar in a school Thrash band called
Genocide. I'm printing some band shirts for him as soon
as he emails me his logo. I don't plan to have any more
kids, as I really don't consider that this world is much
of a place to bring children into anymore.
Britton:
What hobbies aside from writing do you partake in? Do you
have a "day job" now, or are you just writing full time?
Martin:
I've been running my own merchandise label at www.prick-tees.com
for the last 4 years. I print shirt designs aimed at heathen
Metal-heads and also do printing work for bands who are
unable to find quality merchandise at reasonable prices.
It's not made me rich, but it pays the bills and is a
whole lot of fun to be involved with.
Britton:
When you look back at your musical career, what do you feel
the proudest about, and why?
Martin:
My proudest moment was finally hearing The Clan Destined
"In The Big Ending..." demo finished and mixed for the
very first time. I always knew that doing something this
unique in a different way wouldn't be easy, but never
imagined that it could prove quite so demanding. The end
result is awesome in my humble opinion, and can truly
think of nothing else I've ever done that I would rather
have as my final ever musical release. There were times
when I doubted myself and thought that it couldn't be
done, and a few 'nay-sayers' trying their best to put
me down at every stage. Now it's done, and my hope is
that it will be a lasting tribute to all the hard work
put in by many talented people. It is a shining example
of how teamwork and cooperation can overcome many obstacles,
and I'm proud to have played a part in making it happen.
Britton:
If you were to name one live show that you played, what
one would you say was the most fun for you?
Martin:
I've done countless live shows over the years, and with
a rare few exceptions I've loved them all. I guess my
favourites would be Wacken, Dynamo and Gods Of Metal.
(Sorry I couldn't pick just one - lol!). One of my greatest
regrets is that I never got to perform in the U.S. - Maybe
I'll get the chance in my next life perhaps?
Britton:
What's your thoughts on Tony Blair? I thought he was a stuffy-type
Prime Minister, but thought it was cool as hell that he
had the balls to appear on The Simpsons while he was still
in office!
Martin:
When Tony Blair first came to power everyone thought that
he would bring about a change for the better. Britain
had endured decades of Conservative (Republican) rule,
and a brand-new Labour (Democrat) government promised
such great things for the once 'Great' Britain. It therefore
came as a huge disappointment to myself and the rest of
the naive people who initially voted for Blair to discover
that he's just as corrupt and two-faced as the vast majority
of politicians. Oh sure, he wants us all to think that
he's 'cool, hip and knows where the kids are coming from
man' - hence his appearance on The Simpsons. I guess you
guys don't get much of the U.K. news reports over in the
U.S., but please believe me when I say that Blair's many
lies have been exposed by the press and even politicians
from his own party over the years. I cannot even contemplate
why he followed George 'Dubya' Bush into an illegal war
in Iraq, causing the unnecessary deaths of countless young
men and women who should still be alive, at home and watching
The Simpsons instead of sacrificing themselves merely
to line the pockets of rich businessmen with the profits
from Iraqi and Afghani oil. Tony B(liar), 'Dubya' and
friends are all part of the reason why we live in such
a stupid, fucked-up world. They have the blood of innocents
on their hands, and I don't know how they even get to
sleep at night.
Britton:
Well Martin, we have come to the end of our interview. I
hope it wasn't too lengthy, but I had a lot of questions
to ask! I want to tell you what an honor it was to do this
interview with you. I have few people I look up to when
it comes to music, but you're one of them. On behalf of
all of us at Metal Coven, I thank you for agreeing to talk
with us for this interview! I wish you luck in all your
future endeavors, and as always I leave the last word for
you to add anything that you wish!
Martin:
Thanks for the great interview Britton! All the best to
yourself and the rest of the Metal Coven team. I'd just
like to thank all the countless kind people who've sent
me encouraging, supportive messages to The Clan Destined
website over the last year. It is your support that has
actually got me through all this and helped to make TCD
the demo happen. Though this will be my last musical release,
you can be sure that I'm working hard to carry on spreading
the pagan word in every way available to me. The events
of the last 12 months may have taken Martin out of Metal,
but they'll never take the Metal out of Martin! May your
guardian-spirits be with you always. I am because we are!
Martin Walkyier.
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